OK I caved. I wimped out. I just couldn't get past it this year.

My new AR-50's sitting here next to me...

Whew... Glad that's over. They say once you can admit you have a problem, you're halfway to conquering it...

Now that I've come clean - let's get down to business. I've browsed the entirety of biggerhammer.net, hit a number of 50 owners websites...

Any advice on the finer points of shooting this thing? How about developing a system with the NP-R2 that lets us shoot both near and far with this looper of a bullet...

[This message was edited by STL on Wed March 10 2004 at 12:03.]

Nice going! the standard scope rail is only 15 MOA, Armalite makes a 50 MOA that is better - maybe you can exchange your rail if it's a 15 & hasn't been used?? I have a custom 30 MOA from USO under my 5.5-22x56 NXS R2...

Ninja - yep, the 15 MOAer is already in the mail back to Armalite and the 50's on the way... Thanks!

Darin Prince supplies Armalite with bipods & he has a trick rear monopod & thumb screw set available. His email is dlprince1@aol.com

Thanks Ninja. S1 maintains, and I believe I've proven it to myself, that a monopod in the rear of the rifle is bad for vertical stringing. I tried one on my Wolf and found that I was able to control vertical better with a traditional rear bag or lightweight beanbag.

S1 and STL

Can you quantify your analysis of the stringing, please.

Len Backus

The knerled thumb screws are for the bolt release & 2 for the butt plate. Bags do work better, but sometimes it's not an option & the pod is there if I need it.

In my case, Len, the day I tested this phenomenon I shot 3 or 4 groups at 100 yards and the same at 300.

I used the same technique on the bench that I'd use prone. Specifically, I put light (but positive) downward pressure on the rear of the rifle. I do this with my shoulders, really it's the posture of my whole upper body concentrated on the upper 1/4 of the recoil pad. Also, the standard "extreme" straight-line shoulder pressure from the rifle grip.

When I used the monopod, it seemed that the behavior of the buttstock was "different". Now that's not necessarily a bad thing, but on the target, I couldn't shoot under 3/4 MOA.

So all I can truthfully draw from my testing is that my current physical approach to shooting is incompatible with the monopod.

I suppose that someone else's technique, perhaps specifically tuned to the device, coupled with a rifle that behaves differently than the Wolf, may experience better results.

I was not inclined to continue experimenting because I'd have had to change my form to get the monopod to work.

Thanks

Len Backus

My Dad has his eye on a left hand AR50.

The one I shot was extemely pleasant to shoot, that brake is VERY effective!

I don't have the name or address, I'll get it, but there's an outfit my brother gets ammo and bullets from that you might have a look at. I think they had 1000 "pulled" bullets, 647's for $250 or something like that. Same as the Speer 647 basically...

They've got tracer, incindiary and other stuff.

Havin fun now

Be a little carefull with pulled 50 bullets,most are machine pulled and NEED to be resized before reloading.The lighter FMJ also dont have the BC to make full use of the BMG.
Not saying you cant get good deals on BMG ammo or components but you definatly have to be carefull as there is a lot of junk out there that is either corrosive or way out of speck.
If I had it to do over I would not set up to reload this animal($$$$)For the # of rounds most people put through them they will be better of paying for loaded match and fun ammo(Bosnian or Yugo ammo aint worth spit)

http://www.fcsa.org/

http://www.azammo.com/50_bmg_Info.htm
http://www.ttiarmory.com/
http://www.rvow.com/
http://www.brassmanbrass.com/
http://www.impactguns.com/store/.50_cal_loading_info.html

http://www.patsreloading.com/patsrel/whatsnew.htm

http://www.aaa-ammo.com/bmg.htm

http://www.gibrass.com/

http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

Good info. I'll take a look at the pulled bullets he got.

Thanks for the links there.

Derrick's using the 647 FMJ in his Jeffery along with the A-Max. They both shoot alright, but he hasn't done any serious work on the loads yet. H4831 is too slow for it, and that's about all he shot for groups "one" time, and I'm sure they were real slow.

Had my first run in with the BIG 50 this past weekend....Said I would never get one.But after shooting this one...I might change my mind ... Jeff The guy standing to my left in the pic stood there for about 20 rounds out of that thing....Said the muzzle blast did'nt bother him ...The other 40 people at the range ran for cover...

Another one hooked

WOW that front rest is HIGH!

So what do ya think of the recoil?

How'd it shoot?

The range we were shooting at is up hill...I would rather shoot that 50 than a 8 pound 300 Ultra or WBY.....Just a big push.I was shooting at a 12" gong at 1000 yards.It shot pretty well.Killed the gong

Here is a pic of the range

Well, there goes the neighborhood...

Guess now I'll have to get a .60 PBW.

Hey, that's a pretty cool looking range. Wish I had one around here like that! Which range is that there?

I found the same thing, big push is all. I think that's what hooks folks a lot, nothin what they thought it might be.

STL,,,we agreed to NOT talk about this cartridge until July, Why have you gone to loose cannon mode???

Whoops... All the concussion from the .50 has made me crazy. I won't divulge any more details. Sorry.